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 No.1[Reply]

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 No.127209

>>127207

Oh, well! Would you look at that! Someone showed they have the guts to face truth and not run away from it like those faggots in Leftypol who're too fucking weak to even look at anything that contradicts them even the slightest little bit.




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 No.1128[Reply]

I started reading Thomas More's Utopia recently and was wondering if we could get a thread going about left wing literature. Anyone else read this and have thoughts on the book? Can it be considered proto-socialist?

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 No.127557

need a reading list for Structuralism, btw




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 No.127740[Reply]

What does /leftpol/ think of Bernie running for 2020?

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 No.128036

>>128025

How was Obama a progressive leftist anti-establishment president? He was a regressive centrist pro-establishement president who pushed and still pushes exceptionalism like noone else and denied that there is a permanent elite:

https://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/09/08/obama-midterm-stumps-speech-nr-vpx.cnn

Sanders being corrupted by the DNC in 2016 highlights his anti-establishment character whereas Obama has a typical career which gives the impression that he was "designed" to be president.


 No.128047

>>128036

>How was Obama a progressive leftist anti-establishment president?

He was running to the left of Hillary Clinton, which in the context of 2008's democratic primary and general election puts him as the "progressive leftist anti-establishment" candidate.There's actually a lot of parallels between him and Sanders, which should give you an idea of what a Sanders presidency would actually look like and effects of it. If you don't believe me I'll see you in 2032 when people will be saying AOC is the progressive leftist anti-establishment candidate who will lead us to the promised land or disappoint people to the point they will revolt.


 No.128051

>>128036

>How was Obama a progressive leftist anti-establishment president?

I think Obama largely disillusioned people against vague platitudes. Sanders as president may disillusion people against reformists with actual specific policy suggestions, which is the major difference here.


 No.128106

>>128047

>He was running to the left of Hillary Clinton

No he wasn't. He was running as Chocolate Jesus who would cleanse Amerikkka of her racial sins - and from that the Left projected whatever they wanted into his vague, mealy-mouthed pronouncements about Hope™ and Change™.

It's always hilarious talking to Bernie supporters about what drove them away from liberalism, it's invariably due to disillusionment with Obama


 No.128107

>>128047

lmao fuck off O'bomber never had a good track record and considered himself to be a moderate reaganite.




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 No.128003[Reply]

Why do lefties hate Fascists? Fascism seeks to protect workers from corporatism with establishments like a minimum wage and a national worker's union, but still keeps business in charge of production so long as they benefit the state and community. Fascism is ultimately about protection of the native National lower and middle class from a Jewish upper class that seeks to displace and exterminate Whites. (This by no means implies fascism is a white only system, in fact Oswald Mosley states that all races in their own separated fascist nations that aid themselves and eachother is best for the world)

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 No.128101

>>128081

According to the U.S Census Bureau, 45% of Jews are in the top 1% wealthiest Americans, despite being only 0.2% of the population, and you dare to tell me that the Jews are not the rich elite capitalists that are responsible for oppressing workers?


 No.128103

>>128101

Source? I'm finding very different numbers.


 No.128104

>>128103

Also, 25% of the Wealthiest 400 people on Earth


 No.128105

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>>128104

Yes, when I ask you for a source, just keep spouting more unsourced shit at me, that'll do the trick.


 No.128108

File: c0de4393f356c0b⋯.png (236.49 KB, 1279x1615, 1279:1615, hitlerseconomicmiracle.png)

>Fascism

>Minimum wage

AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA




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 No.127231[Reply]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_wealth_per_adult

average people in 20 countries are wealthier than average american, even in countries like Italy, Taiwan, South korea, Spain, Ireland, Canada. and they work less than we, they have public health care, they have less stress than we.

america is shithole. we are so cucked by the rich jews.

also look at "Ratio (%) of median to mean"

in US all wealth is in small number of richest people. in civilized countries, a lot of wealth is in common people hands.

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 No.127719

>>127251

This is your brain when it misses out on Statistics 101.


 No.127747

>South Korea and Japan higher than USA

>when your colonies are wealthier than you


 No.127748

>>127719

People often say "average" instead of "mean." Hardly anyone means "median" when they say "average."


 No.128049

>be European

>pay high taxes

>go to prison because you posted mean things online

>be American

>pay high taxes

>get shot because you didn't present your asshole to the police while whimpering


 No.128102

>>128049

Euro jails are probably better than American prisons. Also you are guaranteed to not go to jail with a bullet in your ass.




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 No.107828[Reply]

I really just wanna know if she's a CIA plant like I've seen allusions to tbh

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 No.127929

>>127898

>capitalism is the mode of production

>fixing the apocalyptically dysfunctional infrastructure of human civilization and revitalizing the neoliberalism-ravaged economy involves giving money to capitalists

That's some bigbrain thinkimation you got's going thar.


 No.127931

>>107885

>>108035

The secret is having children while you are under 30


 No.127938

>>107828

>I really just wanna know if she's a CIA plant like I've seen allusions to tbh

Jesse Jackson and Sharpton filled a role that made them big bank, and they are getting old. She is the first of 3 coming.


 No.127955

Confirmed plant.

The German magazine Bento wrote some clickbaity article on her, how she BTFO'd Trump.

You need to know, Bento is a branch of Spiegel, a bi-weekly released magazine, formerly considered left with a reputation of seriousness, which they now use to shamelessly spew neoliberal propaganda.

Bento is run by young rich hipster journalists kind of what you know in the USA (they are also connected with their US counterparts) and the journal is very similar to that of Gawker network (even their name Bento sounds like Kotaku, Japanese loanwords). What takes the cake is that some of these journos are member of the German conservative party and were pretty pissy when during the election a satirical party made fun of them. Peak conservative liberalism.

An endorsement from Bento is never a good thing, and they would never promote or endorse serious leftists.

Just so you know.


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 No.127024[Reply]

What do you think of the classic philosophical texts which developed into Western philosophy as we know it? In the Republic, Plato clearly advocated for a militarized state ruled by a class of guardians skilled in combat and gymnastics. He argued for a socialistic view of roles within a community, each producing their own share and consuming what they need from each other. He also argued for censorship of intellectuals, fashioning works into moral texts very similar to the socialist realism tendencies advocated by György Lukács and exemplified during the Soviet Union. From Plato what does Marx owe philosophically, and how much can Marx take credit for original thought in the context of western philosophy? This does not mean to be explicit criticism but rather constructive inquiry.

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 No.127848

>>127565

It’s like repulsion at maggots or the smell of rotting meat. It’s biological impulse.


 No.127859

>>127848

"Natural morality" is the lizard brain apparently.


 No.127866

>>127848

But some tribes are eating maggots tho, cultural conditioning stronk.


 No.128089

>>127117 (you)


 No.128098

>>127866

And some people have cannibalized other humans. The exceptions don’t make the rule.




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 No.117640[Reply]

Post mp4s and webms of speeches, songs, films, documentaries, etc..

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 No.126995

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>>123888

I'm pretty sure Khrushchev and Brezhnev supporters aren't fans of Trotsky either

>We must affirm that the Party fought a serious fight against the Trotskyites, rightists and bourgeois nationalists, and that it disarmed ideologically all the enemies of Leninism. This ideological fight was carried on successfully, as a result of which the Party became strengthened and tempered. Here Stalin played a positive role.

>This was a stubborn and a difficult fight but a necessary one, because the political line of both the Trotskyite-Zinovievite bloc and of the Bukharinites led actually toward the restoration of capitalism and capitulation to the world bourgeoisie. …

t. Khrushchev in his speech to the 20th Party Congress


 No.126998

>>126995

What the fuck seriously. Is there any hope for Russia?


 No.127661

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 No.128071

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>>122773

breddy gud




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 No.72458[Reply]

ITT - Questions/Topics that don't warrant knocking a thread off page 15. If you think it'll start a long reply chain, make a thread.

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 No.127889

>>127875

>military might

Spain and Portugal did not even have enough of it to garrison their new colonies or to provide adequate shipping. The British had to rely on private corporations like the HBC for their colonial adventures, and independent privateers and smugglers made up most of their naval power in the New World until after the wars with Spain ended. There was no European military juggernaut. It really was the plagues.


 No.127891

>>127359

You seem to be deliberately omitting the fact that every tallest building in the world from the early 13th century up until 1908 was built in Europe as though it's not worth mentioning.


 No.127892

>>127889

It's funny that you mention pirates, La Fayette a French pirate from Louisiana screwed over the British and was instrumental in their defeat at the hands of the Americans at the Battle of Baton Rouge, albeit the war in 1812 was already over by the time that battle had started.


 No.128034

>>127738

>An astronomer who came up with a heliocentric model a three-hundred years after Nur ad-Din al-Bitruji did.

Actually a Greek known as Aristarchus of Samos first hypothesised that the Earth revolved around the sun in the 3rd century BC.


 No.128070

>>127891

It really is nothing unless you are preparing for trivia night at the pub.

>>127892

Yeah. So?

>>128034

Yes, but Aristarchus never came up with a working model like Nur and Galileo did.




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 No.127190[Reply]

Would his existence have ended up triggering the woke twitter left if he had been the one to live?

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 No.127826

He would have ended up becoming a liberal and posting youtube videos about his radical days being a mistake and hawking glam revival records after growing out of black metal.


 No.127869

>>127826

This seems likely to me.

It sounds like he was kind of a manchild about the whole black metal thing anyway. Doing shit like using Dead's suicide for marketing, giving necklaces made from bits of his skulls to people he "deemed worthy".


 No.128048

>>127869

Him being a manchild about it may have made him not able to grow out of it though.

>>127780

He actually had a pretty good grasp on marxist theory, however his misanthropy led him to believe that the liberal propaganda about Marxist Leninist states was what normalfags "deserved" regardless if it was true or false. He did believe that full communism(perhaps even a "Muke" like conception of it) was historically inevitable.


 No.128065

>>127688

>I always kinda interpreted the black metal guitar tone as being influenced by Cryptic Slaughter

The tone is no doubt influenced by those types of bands.

I mean the tomato picking or whatever its called.


 No.128068




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 No.127026[Reply]

How would you define the difference between British development of socialism versus that which comes from Marx and mainland Europe? Many of the major British socialists over the course of the last two centuries can be seen as distinct from Marx in their utilitarian, analytic and logical positivist tendencies. How would you describe the Fabian society, for instance, in the context of worldwide socialism?

 No.127744

>>127026

is that an unmixed white russian?


 No.127745

bourgeois utopian reformist cancer

only marx is right you can discard everything and everyone else


 No.128064

What is the point of grouping diverse ideological tendencies into broad categories like this?

>>127745

I agree that reformism is a dead end, but most thinkers out there have at least some ideas that are worth considering, even to understand why the ideas are wrong.




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 No.121999[Reply]

Simply post examples of useless people making more money than them. You better start working on pictures with examples of this and begin posting them everywhere.

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 No.127888

>>122256

>The public already like to whine that actors and sports athletes make too much money for jobs perceived to be relatively low effort

Yes, what they don't understand is the top earners in the glamour professions get most of the money. The majority of actors and so on have to work other jobs as well.

It'd be interesting to know if the same applies to cam whores and insta-hoes. If it's the same, an inverted pyramid with most money going to the top, and a slow grind for everyone else, or if it's more even. As I'm honestly baffled how the girl in the picture is making so much money. Good for her that she is. But she looks ordinary to me. You'd think seeing the money possible, checkout till operators and waitresses would quit their jobs and sign up, and the money would flatten out.

Then again, YouTube skeptics like Sargon of Akkad and Paul Joseph Watson have been successful in their careers. And to me, they don't come out with very much you couldn't hear from a boring bastard in the pub.


 No.127998

>>127263

If camwhores are worthless then so are music concerts, sports, movies and literally any other form of entertainment.


 No.128006

>>127512

>>127374

I dunno, at least they're doing something better than whining online. Better than burger incels.


 No.128009

>>127304

If someone puts up with getting fucked by their landlord or boss but gets enraged by a thot milking paypis then that's not the type of nigga we want.

>>127888

>It'd be interesting to know if the same applies to cam whores and insta-hoes.

For pornstars and hookers it does, it'd be extremely surprising if this didn't apply to camwhores and insta-thots. Similar to models and actors it's about building a brand, like Riley Reid doesn't get top dollar for scenes because she's the sexiest, she gets it because she has a powerful brand.


 No.128013

>>127888

>Yes, what they don't understand is the top earners in the glamour professions get most of the money. The majority of actors and so on have to work other jobs as well.

You're missing the larger point, which is that even the top earning performers earn peanuts compared to the studios.




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 No.111111[Reply]

This board needs to read more, and something besides a low traffic sticky is needed. To this end I think we need to revive the /leftpol/ reading group, this time without titofag being the only guy who read anything. We can start off with some basic texts of anarchism and marxism, then move on to more specfic stuff.

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 No.127193

New Poll: Book #7

https://poal.me/gyk1rm

+ You can vote for multiple options (approval voting)

+ You can add custom choices

I'll call it on Sunday 24 Feb around 6PM EST


 No.127705

bumpo


 No.127947

Bamp

Something that's bothered me with the (online) left is that they use certain terms incorrectly. Liberalism doesn't refer to ideology that reinforces capitalism and the bourgeoisie state but anything "socially progressive", idealist just means "shit I don't like it" instead of the belief ideas create reality. Something should be done about this and I wonder if we should work on creating a reading list to educate folks in the hopes they stop saying dumb shit. Any anons here have advice?


 No.127958

>>127947

I agree. Lots of people just kind of passively adopt the jargon without trying to understand the concrete meanings of the words. This flies in most politics today (by design), so it's not necessarily obvious to people that the words mean very specific things.

Some kind of glossary for socialists would be good. Maybe have a definition followed by a short essay for each important concept, fleshing it out. Ideally it could be put it into some easily digestible format for mass consumption like tweets or short youtube videos.


 No.127997

>>127958

I think it'd be easy enough to do a glossary, but atm I don't really trust any youtuber or left twitter personality to share it. Realistically it'd just be a resource for this board, which would help the brainlets not butcher terms.




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 No.126862[Reply]

Post all your Communist memes.

Pepes, feels, kawaii bullshit, infographics welcome.

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 No.126939

>>126915

This. Fuck, you could at least post memes from COMPLETEANARCHY or something that's not this tankie shit. I mean for real, look at this bullshit >>126865

>haha tic-tac-toe, Stalin dindu nuffin

>using "classless" as an insult and using the phrase "Marxist utopia"


 No.126955

>>126915

>>126939

Is it bad that I've seen most of this posted on /leftypol/ before the board split?


 No.127983

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 No.127992

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>>126915

you could post your own memes to drown "tankie" communists while helping everyone else…

But I guess that would be far too communist, woudln't it faggot?

go back to tumblr


 No.127995

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>>127992

fucking tankies man




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 No.113201[Reply]

Whats the mentality behind Nazbol?

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 No.127786

>>113884

Nazbol literally doesn't have anything to do with racialism. Read a damn book.


 No.127825

File: e31c66d013b67f8⋯.jpg (73.69 KB, 643x730, 643:730, anarcho NATO faggot.JPG)


 No.127860

>>119912

technically yeah if they do it in israel and don't allow arabs or whites or blacks in


 No.127988

Hard sex with russian girls

Accidentally climbed the sites and found a good collection of photos and videos, I thought only child porn turned out to be for animal lovers! I liked the most interesting movie with a rabbit, I want to try one of these days!

http://wdvholn5uciSassenachtw.onion


 No.127994

>>125838

On one hand it's gross how companies like this are on twitter posting shit like this. On the other hand they usually get people yelling at them in replies.




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