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File: 946b3254c597f33⋯.jpg (204.21 KB, 1400x1050, 4:3, dsc05814.jpg)

 No.2838398

Greetings comrades I'll start with some background and context.

I Live in Iceland and there has been a noticeable shift in attitude towards capitalism and more and more people are waking up to the exploitation of the working class. The Unions have new leadership and there are strikes going on. There are also, as i write this, ongoing 24/7 protests that are planned for at least the the next 7 days, protesting police brutality and the mistreatment of refugees by the police(they teargassed and beat them for standing in a group).

Though these are positive changes, we still need more people to passively, if not actively support these actions and become class-aware.

My question is would hanging up posters (assuming they are competently made) to motivate more members of the working class to start fighting for their interests, be effective or could they hurt the cause.

I know this isn't an easy question to answer and there are a lot of nuances and details that need to be discussed which is also why i'm asking.

I need to decide if me printing and distributing propaganda would help or hurt us.

If you think it could help, i'm open to ideas.

Thank you in advance for taking the time to read, ponder and reply.

 No.2838401

Could you provide some sources anon? last time an anon from Iceland came he literally said his country was leading the socialist revolution and never gave sources, the only thing he said was true is that icelanders put their bankers in jail.

As for your second question, why would trying to make yourself known outside of online means be harmful? distribute as much propaganda as you can.


 No.2838415

>>2838401

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejC_0Yjz7kY

Found what anon was talking about

>>2838398

Organize and distribute my man.


 No.2838422

>>2838401

yes, i remember that post. I was the other icelandic guy who refuted everything he said with a wall of text that killed the thread, he was talking nonsense.

there is no revolution and the protests going on are pretty small but here are some sources:

https://www.frettabladid.is/frettir/flottamenn-motmaeltu-vi-austurvoell-etta-er-ekkert-lif

https://www.frettabladid.is/frettir/flottafolk-a-islandi-efna-til-motmaela-a-morgun

https://www.facebook.com/events/155208915425737/


 No.2838428

>>2838401

>the only thing he said was true is that icelanders put their bankers in jail.

OP here again, forgot to add that this has been outlandishly overstated by foreign media. it didn't really happen to any meaningful degree.


 No.2838432

>>2838428

Yeah i did heard they were put on special prisons where they still could work anyway


 No.2838437

>>2838432

exactly, i wrote that in that other thread. while in prison they were even interviewed by the right-wing media where the complained how bad they had it there. one of the complaints was how hard it was to do banking from prison because you can't attend meetings in person.


 No.2838442

here's an article by a right-wing media outlet talking about how harmful the busdriver's strike is for the disabled.

https://www.mbl.is/frettir/innlent/2019/03/13/verkfall_hefur_ahrif_a_farthega_straeto/


 No.2838494

>>2838398

Are you part of an organization? Propaganda is alright, but fighting alone is useless.


 No.2838505

>>2838494

>Are you part of an organization?

no, but it wouldn't be hard to find help with design and distribution considering the circles i move in.


 No.2838508

For socialists, at this time, the best propaganda should just be the truth. No attacking non-socialists/communists, just plain facts about exploitation/current conditions and what's going on but shortened and nicely made. It doesn't always have to be some negative or deceitful thing. If it's done well and is welcoming to the working class, it will almost always be a positive. I say go for it.


 No.2838510

>>2838508

>just plain facts about exploitation/current conditions and what's going on but shortened and nicely made.

the thing is, i think that kind only appeals to a certain kind of person, the same kind who are attracted to this board. I wonder if it wouldn't be more effective to appeal to a sense of community and class identity rather then just using facts and figures.


 No.2838511

File: 20403a5a4b25c6c⋯.jpg (332.89 KB, 766x1024, 383:512, 5523964229_5a2dedb069_b.jpg)


 No.2838512

>>2838511

ofc this is very outdated stylistically


 No.2838518

>>2838512

Yeah their wrists would need to be twice as thick to account for the obesity epidemic.


 No.2838520

>>2838518

and darker


 No.2838541

>>2838510

>appeal to community and class identity

I forgot to add that in the post you're replying to. Yes I absolutely believe that is important to include.


 No.2838546

>>2838505

The thing is, propaganda itself is only one side of the coin. Societal change without organization of the masses is impossible. I mean, this is the reason why you want to spread propaganda, right? And beside that, spreading propaganda through an organization is much more efficient, than doing the job completely alone.


 No.2838564

File: 40ed82d9df0549c⋯.png (1.62 MB, 901x1488, 901:1488, Comrade-Lenin.png)

>>2838398

IRL propaganda is great, BUT, we live in the 21century and every single mofo in the planet spends half his day stuck to a screen.

People in this board really underestimate how strong virtual propaganda can be.

Litterally organize and shill on facebook and youtube, it unironically fucking works and is safer if done properly.


 No.2838567

>>2838564(ME)

If you are willing to go around designing, printing and spreading posters you can do the same online but with greater reach and less work. I know it's less fun but you can still do both.


 No.2838574

File: 2efbe7c97c6817b⋯.gif (1.83 MB, 288x377, 288:377, huh.gif)

>>2838508

>the best propaganda should just be the truth

what about the truth about the gulags and violence???

we all have comfy af lives except the cost of living is so high but a lot of that is government created and you can see the cost of living is lower in countries with less government?


 No.2838576

>>2838567

There's absolutely zero force projection posting art online, it's just borderline cringey never doing anything with your poster designs but uploading them to the internet and it makes it look like you're lacking in talent more than anything. Having posters up irl gives the appearance of there being a physical presence in the area, as opposed to a presence on deviantart (porkies watch out!).


 No.2838577

>>2838574

>we all

false

>gulags

mistake that didn't even benefit the ussr

>violence

necessary


 No.2838578

no effort post


 No.2838579


 No.2838581

>>2838577

>violence

>necessary

well that's not going to be effective propaganda except for glorious uprisings


 No.2838582

>>2838581

how is saying you will be able to be violent not good propaganda u crazy


 No.2838585

>>2838582

>modern western people aren't comfort seeking

go outside anon


 No.2838588

>>2838582

>>2838582

also how are you any better than the nazis then??? you sound just like them

>violence is necessary

>the 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧((evil billionaires🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧))


 No.2838589

>>2838588

>you leftists are no better then the nazis

get the fuck out'a here


 No.2838590

File: 9c9ecd230d1b636⋯.jpg (146.57 KB, 921x612, 307:204, Brecht.jpg)


 No.2838592

File: 9803dd122b300de⋯.png (95.07 KB, 362x321, 362:321, thedmt.png)

>>2838589

this is about effective propaganda and im quite simply pointing out the OPTICS of what you sound like


 No.2838594

File: 8c4fc8a42c624bd⋯.jpg (56 KB, 640x333, 640:333, IMG_2716.jpg)

File: 04009338bdce69e⋯.jpg (207.09 KB, 1000x660, 50:33, 34234324324324.jpg)

>>2838590

nazis have the same exact rhetoric


 No.2838596

>>2838588

haha le epic "rich are just a marxist allegory for jews"! they are just as bad as the nazis! it's not like we simply believe they an obsolete tool of society that hasn't accepted any reforms and can only understand by violent revolution!


 No.2838597

>>2838592

personally i don't think the threat of violence should be part of propaganda in my country. focus should be on cultivating class identity


 No.2838598

File: 7f33f18d9b40ea3⋯.jpg (2.21 MB, 3256x2808, 407:351, 7f33f18d9b40ea35f2c1431d7c….jpg)

>>2838594

not a real quote by hitler nigger


 No.2838599

>>2838594

First quote is actually a S.trasser quote, and the second quote is fucking retarded.


 No.2838689

>>2838442

lmao this is straight out of the right wing handbook, find an edge case you actually don't give a solitary shit about and inflate it into an elephant


 No.2842115

Hello, OP here again. felt the need to do a status update on my countries labor struggle.

So these past few weeks the unions have been going on small, tactical strikes, lasting from anywhere between a few hours and a day.

SA(Samtök Atvinnulífsins) which is the organization that negotiates with the unions on behalf of employers (so it's basically the anti-union) sued the unions for striking.

The case got to court unusually quickly and the verdict was delivered today making the strikes illegal.

Like typical bourgeois, the head of the anti-union made a press release talking about how good this verdict is for society as strikes are harmful for everybody.

In response the unions are now planning more traditional strikes.

https://www.mbl.is/frettir/innlent/2019/03/15/felagsdomur_telur_orverkfollin_ologleg/


 No.2842465




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