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 No.13968[Reply]

Post the last book(s) you have read. It would be nice if you add a synopsis or review as well, but it's not a requirement. Just seeing a snapshot of what other image-board anons are reading is itself awesome.

New feature for 2018! This thread is set to Cycle mode. Here's to a forever book reading thread.

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 No.16123

File: c849d06891cd975⋯.jpg (25.8 KB, 308x475, 308:475, Kleist.jpg)

I mostly finished reading The Marquise of O and Other Stories by Heinrich Von Kleist. As much as I hate to admit this /lit/, I'm giving up on short stories collections. They're mostly mixed bags in my experience, were I only enjoy a couple of the stories and slog through the rest. Of the stories in the collection the only one I enjoyed was Michael Kohlhaas. Besides my disinterest in short story collections, I just don't find Kleist to be compelling as a writer. This might be a product of his time, but Kleist's prose is a tad flowery. You can skim paragraphs and not miss anything needed to move the plot or character development.

I'm not too sure what I'm going to read next. I'm either going to continue with my "light" reading or go back to reading philosophy.




 No.15832[Reply]

Book clubs never work!

Why this is going to work

I'm seen book clubs started on different boards and they always fail, which is why I created a reading club instead. No one wants to read a whole book of questionable interest every week, and no one can blame anons for not wanting to. My solution for this is to focus on short stories and novellas, so that plenty of anons have the time and will to finish.

You need more material to talk about than that

Thats a valid point and will be taken into consideration. If it proves to be true my plan is to include multiple shorts by the same author, so that we can discus him as well. This will allow anons who don't want to read a whole novel to participate, while still allowing a depth of conversation.

==The White People== =

by Arthur Mache

E. F. Bleiler wrote that the narrative in the Green Book "is probably the finest single supernatural story of the century, perhaps in the literature", and Michael Dirda has stated: "If I were to list the greatest supernatural short stories of all time, I would start with Arthur Machen’s 'The White People,' about a young girl’s unknowing initiation into an ancient, otherworldly cult." S. T. Joshi has called the diary "a masterpiece of indirection, a Lovecraft plot told by James Joyce", and H. P. Lovecraft himself wrote that "Machen's narrative, a triumph of skilful selectiveness and restraint, accumulates enormous power as it flows on in a stream of innocent childish prattle". I copied this off of Wikipedia, since I don't want to give away to much. I'm going to read it again before I write what I think.

RULES

Use spoilers if what you say requires them.

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 No.16015

I liked the dialogue at the start. It sells the theme of the story fairly well. The two characters – the curio and his intrigued companion – are a lot like Holmes and Watson.

It's quite a chore to read through the contents of the green book. It is after all designed to disorient the reader, and in the story, hide the girl's secrets. Later I reread it and the various fairy tales she meanders off into show similarities with the behavior of the girl and the nurse.

I found the ending unsatisfying. The character at the start who was so talkative before is now tight lipped; he knows the statue is involved, that it acts similar to (or is) alchemy, and thinks it's dangerous enough to destroy – but he won't say why. It would have been less annoying to me if he had only heard the girl died in front of the statue.

If I've grasped this right: the nurse is the white woman she first saw at the pond with the man who followed them (both cultists); the cultists all die sudden deaths (possibly due to the [figurative?] wine and bread); they are extraordinarily happy in immaterial ways but can't go back to a normal life; outsiders have died because of the cult and they've been persecuted/killed for this.

Other things: I don't know if the white faces and their language have any significance. I also don't know the bible very well so I'm not sure what the blindfold, when approaching the statue a second time, is a reference to. It's also not clear to me if she literally poisoned herself or if it's figurative.




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 No.908[Reply]

Greetings fellow /lit/erati!

Here are the rules:

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3. No spamming.

4. No illegal content.

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That is all.

Let your minds and fingers roam free!

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 No.16023[Reply]

Has anyone read this trilogy of novels by Cronin? Just watched the 10 episode season but I found out that Amy Bellafonte isn't a 14 year old black girl, she's a 10 year old white girl, so I'd like to get to know that Amy too.

 No.16042

Is it a cancelled show or is this one of those affirmative action things that'll keep on chugging despite all odds.


 No.16135

>14yo black girl instead of 10yo white girl

disgusting

dropped before even picking up




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 No.6881[Reply]

I've a hankering for some reading, and I know I could ask for some general advice as to what to read.

On the other hand, I thought I'd lend a hand to anyone else searching for something to read as well.

So, you've got them?

Post your infographics.

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 No.15917

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 No.15918

Anybody have guide for psychology or Psychoanalysis ?


 No.15919

>>15918

Freud, Jung, and Reich. There are probably more, and I can even list films, but I'd recommend just whipping yourself on the back, you'll pretty much just get the exact same experience.


 No.15977

Finally someone with decent taste who hasn't been inspired by Google.>>6899


 No.16134

seconded for psychoanalysis




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 No.15140[Reply]

Let's just do it. There's not gonna be a better time, anyway. No hurry, obviously.

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 No.16125

>>16116

>Figured that the speakers would be obvious enough but evidently that's not the case.

Precisely my case was that I read with the possibility of new characters abruptly showing up ie when another text has "yo wait up" without a specified speaker, and then the character turning and identifying who said it.


 No.16127

File: 0ada17a11f9a2f3⋯.pdf (2.08 MB, untitled.pdf)

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>fool around with pandoc even more

>add some parameter that says basically specifies the document as a book

>it does all this fancy shit with chapter, page numbering and footers

Ignoring default margin and font size, I like it, but does anyone else use this and know why it wastes certain pages preceding chapters?


 No.16130

>>16127

Looks to me like it starts the first page on the right side of the book, as evidenced by page 2 having its number on the left side (meaning that page is to be on the left side of the book).

why did you put a line break after every paragraph and why isn't anything indented?


 No.16131

>>16130

I just have a bunch of text files that I dump into the program, but I totally forgot about indenting.


 No.16133

File: 4a7524a0ce0540c⋯.pdf (2.45 MB, untitled.pdf)

>>16131

Ok I got it. I also got rid of the random blank pages.




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 No.8458[Reply]

http://www.parentherald.com/articles/17911/20160128/the-winds-of-winter-release-date-update-george-rr-martin-book-nowhere-near-finished.htm

Hello everyone, I am a lazy fatass fuck. It takes me 7 fucking years to write a penny-dreadful, film-script based "novel". And it doesn't matter that it's my full time fucking job, literally the only thing I'm required to do, or that I jack off at 67 years of age by taking bum fuck vacations all over the world to live off the prestige of my now stagnate series that I can't fucking finish, that I'm constantly giving interviews and bullshit for the industry, and that I'm writing OTHER books that literally no one gives a fuck about. That's right, I'm not writing for the series that is the sole reason for all my fame and which everyone wants, no, I write other books that are truly shit and no one gives a fuck about. And when those that gave me all this money call me out on this shit, the best I can do is twiddle my fat fingers, flip them off and then whine on my blog about how ashamed I am of being a lazy fatass fuck. Oh, did I mention that I waste time playing videogames? I have all this responsibility, I'm 67 fucking years old and I waste time playing videogames, because that's really going to get the job done and get all these people off my back. Did I mention I'm a lazy fatass fuck?

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 No.15929

>>15912

>implying fatass hasn't shilled out low quality Chapters

dude, entire characters in ASOIAF are low quality. Brienne of fucking Tarth, pure garbage.


 No.15942

>>15844

So much this


 No.16109

why can't this motherfucker just finish the book?


 No.16124

>>16109

He doesn't need to now. I mean he's got his money between the TV series and spin off books he wrote to milk his fans.


 No.16129

>>15290

>unrelated stories occurring in the same universe

That's every non fantasy/sci-fi story ever written.




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 No.16024[Reply]

What's your favorite book that was written in your native language?

 No.16032

How did you end ups as a native speaker of early modern English?


 No.16112

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fuckinn lit 100 100 [eggplant] [water spurt]


 No.16126

>>16112

Your post gave me cancer.


 No.16128

>>16032

Vampire posters are real.




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 No.12654[Reply]

>book 1

>pretty interesting anti-hero book, some nice lore building and entertaining story

>book 2

>not too bad, but the muh father shit was really annoying at times, though I appreciate wrapping up that plotline as quickly as possible instead of dragging it out over several books, also Opal Koboi is kind of entertaining as a villainess

>book 3

>probably the best of the bunch, even if Butler aging by around a decade to save his life was completely pointless and does not affect his character whatsoever in the future books

>book 4

>kills off one of the best characters in the series, Opal Koboi is back again, and is probably the last entertaining book in the series that does not go full retard

>book 5

>goes full retard with demon shit, also more unnecessary aging of characters towards the end, and some really dumb antagonists

>book 6

>possibly even more retarded than book 5, antagonists are full-on strawmen so Eoin Colfer can spend half the book forcing his hippie environmentalist leanings on you, also it has a 14-15 year-old boy make out with a 100 year-old elven dyke just in case you didn't get that the author was basically writing fanfiction at this point

>book 7

>continues the series' progression towards full retard storytelling, villain is a whiny tool, the only saving grace were the occasional moments of Artemis having a split-personality as a wannabe Don Quixote/Casanova fusion and hitting on Holly which still doesn't negate the general stupidity

>book 8

>I don't even know what the fuck was happening here, it seems like the author just threw all logic out the window and made up shit as he went along, this shit is worse than Deathly Hallows, which is fucking saying something

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 No.12660

>>12654

>What happened? It started off so good, and then took a sudden nosedive, kinda like Harry Potter did with Order of the Phoenix. Except with HP, the reasons are kinda obvious, with AF, not so much.

but you can probably put the blame on publishers. why selling a book or a trilogy when you can sell ten? the author's ego does the rest.

i haven't read neither so, i cannot help


 No.12698

Its been a while, but i always remeber book 5 as my favourite, although i did recognise the shift in atmosphere, i didnt mind too much. Never read book 8, 7 was kinda shit, but it might have been me growing older


 No.13342

>>12654

Ideas lose steam if they're stretched too far.


 No.15991

.


 No.16122

I loved Artemis Fowl as a kid. I stopped reading at the global warming book, like 6 or 7.




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 No.12678[Reply]

Why is this board so dead?

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 No.16051

I wasnt even ware this board existed


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 No.16108

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 No.16117

>>16108

Why would aliens give someone's cat a beard?


 No.16119

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>>16117

based cat beadin aliens them's who




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 No.16113[Reply]

Any good book recommendations?

Politics, philosophy, science (specifically space), and religion.

Thanks.

 No.16114

Bump


 No.16115

No harm in asking; however, open ended general request threads tend to go nowhere.

There are a variety of /lit/ image-board mosaics detailing various topics and genera for suggestions. The best we have here is "the last book you read" threads, which invite people to state why they found a given book worth pursuing.

Still, I'll throw a few out there.

1. Politics:

How to Stop a War: The Lessons of Two Hundred Years of War and Peace by James F. Dunnigan. Conflict is always a popular political topic. The nature of conflict resolution less so, but no less full of geeky, fun detail.

Cracks in the Constitution by Ferdinand Lundberg. Enlightening survey against common misconceptions about the attributes, scope, and history of the American constitution.

The Washington Pay-off by Robert N. Winter-Berger. Somewhat dated as an expose of how things get done behind the headlines. The technical details of lobbying differ today, but the general system as Winter-Berger describes it remains in full force.

>>>/pdfs/ for suggestions, obviously.

2. Philosophy:

I have a 1960s era general guide to various philosophers. The title escapes me at the moment. For more modern philosophy, online resources are sufficient. Anyway, the idea here is you'll go farther, faster with solid professional/academic guides. Hardcore types don't bother asking, they go right to the source. See >>>/philosophy/ for a few suggestions.

3. Science (specifically space):

Megastructures: Science and Speculation by Paul Lucas. Although, this comes at you from the idea of writing SciFi.

In that regard, pretty much any modern hard SciFi role playing game.

The Orion's Arm website.

There are some interesting (if dated) general guides by Feynman, Asimov, etc. You'd do better by asking the respective boards for whaPost too long. Click here to view the full text.




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 No.15998[Reply]

whats the best place to start with Francis Fukuyama?

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 No.16069

File: 06ae820ce066246⋯.png (147.7 KB, 335x150, 67:30, Viva la Katz.png)

"We should stop going around babbling about how we're the greatest democracy on earth, when we're not even a democracy. We are a sort of militarized republic." –Gore Vidal

Francis Fukuyama is best known for his hypotheses about the path and shape of our worldly future with his End of History stance. From my vantage point, his analysis appears largely discredited. This is just as well, as the board appears largely unsupportive of his work as well.

Four suggestions were provided. Three of them intended as criticisms of Fukuyama's earlier positions. One directly so, one indirectly, and one tongue-in-cheek. Huntington is the direct one.

Vidal is indirect, albeit not everything is applicable to the topic at hand. Vidal's essay collection is divided into three sections. The relevant section needed to help one approach Fukuyama is: State of the Union. What are we? Why are we so? After assuming a firm handle on what Fukuyama means by "liberal democracy," these obvious questions present themselves.

Châtelet is a more humorous suggestion, but not inapplicable. He is criticizing the idea of what certain people desire us to become, as to be found in Fukuyama's vision. He's a bit too high level and bleu-blanc-rouge to be easy for those unfamiliar with him to follow. However, he does make a nice counter balance to Vidal's brazen all-things-Americana.

Stupides Américains!

Anyway, like him or not, Fukuyama is hardly a moron. He need not be dismissed out of hand. As with a fine wine, he becomes better with age. As such, as with the fourth selection, our guidesperson poster is politely suggesting one might start with his later works.


 No.16071

>>16062

If you meant to say that it wouldn't be easier to skip to the source, as you know from Hegel, I find this comparison between Fukuyama and Hegel hard to take seriously. Hegel has a cant all of his own which is hardly comparable to anything at all.

>>16069

>This is just as well, as the board appears largely unsupportive of his work as well.

Please do not appeal to the opinions of anonymous posters.


 No.16086

>>16069

You realize I am OP and also American. Also France tends to harbor a lot of fruitcakes, so back at cha bud


 No.16111

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>>15998

read this and realize that people only don't accept it because he's not white


 No.16121

Francis Fukuyama is /r/asiandienty cringe




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 No.16110[Reply]

this bad boy got a legion d'honneur today

what did u do?



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 No.16026[Reply]

Did a relevant philosophical background is necessary to consider a fiction as a good piece of literature?

Russian author's example for affirmative answer: Dostoevsky, his novels are full of existentialism interrogations judiciously incarnated by his characters.

Another Russian author's example for negative answer: Nabokov, his novels have an excellent style of prose and many appealing themes, but they are not particularly challenging on a philosophical level.

On the French side, it's kind of the same thing that differenciates Sarte from Celine, for example.

So, what's your opinion on that question?

 No.16030

Fuck, sorry for the grammar error in the subject, severe insomnia is the cause.


 No.16033

File: 87b460765a8125f⋯.jpg (369.73 KB, 1200x1440, 5:6, allegorical vs genre.jpg)

if someone has a genuine attitude to the really important question like death, love, family, it doesnt matter if he outlines in idealistic concepts or writes spontaneously. both approaches can have degenerate outcomes if the author has only superficially cultivated his philosophic side. a weak idealist will look too allegorical and stilted. and a weak genre artist might end up with an apotheosis of banalities, instead of a warm, lively picture.


 No.16088

Philosophy is essential to fiction. Author’s philosophical impulses is very important part for writing in general. Very often I have come across such situations where the analysis of the idea of the author of a work is necessary in order to understand his true philosophical intentions. PapersOwl was also important part for custom essay writing, especially for me and for my essay on the topic of "author’s philosophical impulses"


 No.16098

On some level philosophy is needed to make a clever piece of art and understand how to make it.

However a story does not need philosophy.


 No.16101

fiction is born of philosophy

great art is created through either expression of insight or exploration of concepts, and is magnified by technical skill

this is why modern art appears so vacuous; hubris defines it, just as it defines modern philosophy




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 No.16099[Reply]

Has anyone read him? What are his best works, and what are they like?



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