Most of us realize that this wave of ERPO (red flag) gun "laws" are going to be used primarily to disarm white, right wing men.
It's going to get to the point where your guilt of thought crime will send the boleez to your door on order of some cucked-ass judge.
So we have two main options if we find ourselves on the shit end of this stick:
1.) Surrender and give up your arms willingly, then wait for your court date and be at the mercy of the Kosher "justice" system (we know how that's going to end).
2.) Don't surrender and go out in gun fire.
Which brings me to the only other option I've been able to think of in this situation:
If you get the knock on the door, DO NOT OPEN IT. DO your damndest to stall for as long as possible. Barricade your ass in for the long haul.
While stalling, start up a live stream. Shit post the live stream to every social media outlet, every image board, every discussion forum you can. SHit post your location with the livestream to your local pro 2A kikebook or other social media groups. Get these people to get of their asses to come help you.
Contact your friends and family and get them to contact their friends who would be sympathetic to your situation. RALLY THE FUCKING troops. Get them to physichally come to your residence to put pressure on the pigs.
Regardless how we feel about the Bundy Ranch incident: It proved a large enough group of pissed of Americans with guns can win a fight against the state.
The last thinng the kikes want is more
If the situation turns bloody, (((THEY))) lose. The situation will have to be deescalated for them to save face. They're betting on us cucking, but if we can organize quickly in the moment, it may be a tangible option.
Reminder that a kike introduced a bill for this in Michigan.
I've been thinking the same anon the hard part will be getting the message out before they shut off your internet/block cell signal. Right now is the time to lay down local response networks among your 2A friends.
Good point. We may not have to an hero individually if a dozen local well-wishers show up to every collection action.
Still be ready to die for your people though. Remember that the more bodies they have to scrape off the ground after each seizure attempt, the less enthusiastic they will be for the next one, and the next and the next. It sounds dumb, but incidents like Waco and OKC really do push the glowdark learning curve a little. Teaches them where the boundaries are.
4.) Hide your guns and then report them as stolen.
Great point, and this was my main concern. So we can maybe be a bit proactive and start organizing groups NOW instead of in the moment.
Fuck off Schlomo…
>Die pointless death in a standoff which will result either in your ultimate demise or lengthy incarceration while streaming it live which will in no way going to reimburse us e the loss of another great man..
3) Buy few AR15s, shotguns and handguns from gun show with no record and hide them at secure location (NO, not your home!). Hand over your other guns to the ZOG and:
a) stay alive or free
b) remain a viable asset to our cause
There are to few of us awoken to pointlessly die. This is right what (((they))) want. One more thing, if you keep ALL your firearms at your home you're truly retarded. You have to keep atleast some of your guns in an undisclosed location far away from your home which ZOG has no knowledge of. Amen.
The trick here is to have NEVER REGISTERED a gun in the first place. NEVER buy guns from gun stores or from dealers. ONLY buy guns from private sales, pay cash and don't ask questions. NEVER tell people you have guns. If you have told people, let them know subtly and tactfully that you've "sold" your guns. NEVER do background checks for guns. ONLY buy from armslist or at gun shows from private sellers.
THE GOVERNMENT CANNOT CONFISCATE WHAT IT DOES NOT KNOW ABOUT.
This is why they are going for this so called 'gun show loophole'. For the time being, (((they))) may live with the fact that we have guns but they can't stand it that we may have guns that (((they))) have no knowledge about. That being said it is paramount that the upcoming anti gun legislation AOC wants to push is stopped in its tracks.
It’s not a half bad idea. Once one of us starts shitposting/streaming during a raid that would be a surefire sign to accelerate even harder. It would be like a signal flare going up , a beacon as it were.
I hope you guys have been networking in your area and learned it well so you can co-ordinate when the day comes. You better believe "white nationalism" will fall under mental health acts they will put forward so White men will fall under the scope.
>Officials said Willis answered the door while holding a handgun.
>Willis then placed the gun next to the door.
>When officers began to serve him the order, Willis became irate and grabbed his gun.
>One of the officers tried to take the gun from Willis, but instead Willis fired the gun.
>The second officer fired a gun, striking Willis. He died at the scene.
Buy them while you can. Buy as many as you can and as much ammo as you can and don't fucking tell anyone.
But i'll bite get as many weapons and hide them.
Fuck that sucks I’m moving there soon
Best course of action is to buy some guns and ammo and hide them away. There are tons of videos on jewtube about making pvc pile caches.
Have some cheap ones, like a mosin nagant and a shitty hi-point handgun to give up if you don’t have friends. If you have friends I agree on the Bundy ranch style stand off with the ZOGbots.
Also in this light but does anyone have any experience with polymer 80% lowers? Polymer seems sketchy to me, but I unfortunately no longer have access to the tooling to do metal based 80% lowers and unserialized firearms are important. The ATF most certainly has a registry, it’s essentially a loophole as registries are illegal so they call it the “firearms trace”. But it essentially works by taking in form 4473s from FFLs, as they are require by law to store those forms for 20 years for searches and if they retire before 20 years they must submit the forms (hard copy) to the ATF for storage and cataloging. I just don’t know how many FFLs actually destroy their 4473s after that 20 year period is up, thus it’s likely your info is accessible (albeit inefficiently)
embrace your fate
teach the traitors a lesson
if you are going to do that you better wake up early, most raids happen around 4-5am.
Like why can't you buy a fully functional factory grade weapon from gun show or private person with no paper work nor registration? I suggest buying few guns with a sole purpose of hiding them in an undisclosed locations in case ZOG gets after your other guns. Your hidden 'panic' weapons should be the most useful ones, ie semuautomatic rifles, possibly AR15, autoloading pistosl and potentially shotguns nad long range rifles. No need to bother yourself with anything less usefull.
Yeah private sales are definitely an option, for now at least.
Not perfect though, since there are still loose ends. But definitely an option
Were I you, I'd really buy atleast one AR15 and a handgun this way quickly and then bury them at an undisclosed location. You know right wing ideas are enough to get your guns taken from you and given the fact that you post here, I guess it is a case. AOC is doing her best to get rid of this 'loophole' so we're running out of time to arm ourselves.
This is my one fucking qualm about guns man. I fucking love guns, love building ARs and get old rough looking milsurps up and running again.
But all this political shit makes it a super high anxiety thing, and money is right. I’ve been bleeding money stacking ammo, useful SHTF firearms, ect (among all other preps like food).
As much as I hear you and 100% I simply can’t afford another handgun and AR15, nevermind the necessary spare ammo to go with them and a decent stock of spare parts, lube, necessary tools for repairs, ect.
Best bet is probably to go on a canoe trip to clear my mind. Prettt relaxing. Will take my one of my ARs with me for security and further piece of mind. Old fucking canoe is shitty though, really leaky, but should hold out
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Now would be a golden opportunity to introduce vid related. remember to not only harden your abode, harden the perimeter around your property as well.
what undisclosed location would that be? arms sealed in a plastic chemical drum and then buried in a thicket? If LE finds out about it, and they can connect that it was you, you have a reckless endangerment charge heading your way.
<There are tons of vids on yt about caching
>not posting invidious links of the vids so that we don't need to search for them and trigger database keywords which could put anons under suspicion.
anon, you need to make more of an effort to not be homosexual, otherwise i'm going to send Mike Pence your user id :^)
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Or they get you in the parking lot buying groceries or after work without a struggle. They never show up when you want them to, that's the point.
>If the situation turns bloody, (((THEY))) lose
This. Plain and simple. Violent action against kikes and their lapdogs is what enables victory over them. Anything else will fail, as always.
nice words. nobody came to wreak havoc in the atf’s flanks at waco. nobody will come to to your rescue as theyll be instantly detained if they dont come in shooting.
you could try getting a group together and picking a defendable strongpoint to hold out and broadcasting that youll hold it as long as possible and for any allies to wreak havoc in the zogs rear but anybody approaching your position is considered hostile. at malheur standoff they told responding 3% oathcucks to leave and they were not needed. obviously the ones in the badly selected strongpoint were not even considering pulling triggers. broadcast your plan/pull triggers/tell allies to hit enemy flanks while you hold position and see if americans will come help. i doubt they will but you could hold your point a while if its elevated/wooded and there are shooters lurking behind zogbot lines hitting them while the strongpoint defenders hold out. just be sure you broadcast that all approachers will be considered hostile so the defenders dont get infiltrated by pseudo operations ala selous scout tier.
or do the only thing that has a chance of the zog losing control and white people coming out on top, cause shtf and let nature run its course.
Have backup guns stashed off site and don't be too candid with normalfags about guns or politics.
We're living in the golden age of 80% guns, private sales, and cheap ammo/mags (however that window of opportunity is closing).
Making a spectacle when the ZOG is stacked outside your front door doesn't seem like a winning strategy to me, especially if you can be reasonably certain you won't be imprisoned. I'd rather use it as an intel gathering opportunity to learn (((who))) is initiating, signing off, and enforcing the politically-motivated ERPOs… If there are policy changes (explicit or de facto) where they start locking guys up indefinitely then shit changes, of course (IE: no bail, permanent "psych" holds, Gitmo, ect..)
I'm a newb when it comes to firearms could you expand on what you said about
>cheap ammo mags
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Sorry anon laptop is broken where they are all saved.
I’ll bite the bullet and search them myself. Embedded is a good instructional how to.
I also like this one:
There are others as well but you should get the idea from these.
Keep in mind what you are buying here. You are buying PVC pipe and 2 end caps. What else is made using these materials. Don’t be an idiot or a sketchball, be smart about how you buy this stuff or you will get flagged and bagged by the feds thinking you are making bombs, which defeats the purpose of these caches, right? (As you’ll get your guns taken). So be smart and maybe spread your purchases out, use cash and maybe use friends to buy the different components if you’re really worried
fuck up bitch. if they show up at your door give them a magdump through it. spread your shots out as you want them all to get some. stop trying to convince people to lay down without a fight. if you get redflagged dont give up your guns. you wont go around murdering police chiefs and judges with your hidden pistol. nobody has. nobody has shot it out either. never submit to the zog. its so easy to do and once you do it youll realize just how easy it is to submit. the damage will be done and your transformation into a total cuck complete. you should be murdering politicians and zogbots now before you get redflagged not after. im talking to myself.
private sales are getting banned with HR8, 80%/solvent traps should be next. try jewgle you retard.
An 80% gun is usually in reference to AR builds but can also be of handguns (commonly glocks)
It basically comes down to the laws pertaining to firearms. It’s common for people to build custom firearms from component (premade) parts, putting together different pieces to really tailor it to your needs.
Using the AR as a reference, the part of the gun that is legally considered the firearm (and thus bares a serial number) is the lower receiver. Thus this is the only part that requires a background check, you can buy all other parts (barrel, bolt carrier, trigger assembly, ect) without a background check.
However, many want to avoid background checks all together because, as I highlighted above, a quasi registry exists based on the NICS check paperwork. However, it is totally legal to literally build your own parts from scratch and thus not need a serial number on your gun.
Which is where an 80% lower receiver comes in. An 80% lower is an almost complete lower, and since it is incomplete, does not have a serial number. However it’s quite easy to complete, and then buy the rest of the parts and assemble a completely unserialized AR 15 (or whatever gun we are talking about).
Polite sage for double post
>preparing to bury your stuff
youre already defeated
Careful, if you say something naughty the kike mods will rat you out
who cares? its known this site is ran by feds. theyre impotent faggots that secretly admire us. also they are literally stupid. i havent seen one decent shill ever.
Not entirely. Think realistically, what is wrong with having backups hidden? What if out on patrol doing whatever you come back and your place was raided. Or what if they get the jump on you, confiscate your shit?
Live to fight another day, and you need a weapon to fight (hence a cache). Plus you don’t keep all your eggs in one basket famalam
then make that point in your post about it
It just means you can build or buy guns without the gov't knowing. This is good because the gov't is NOT the arbiter of your 2A Rights, much to their chagrin.
*and without gov't approval (which is more to the point that I was driving at)
>Turn their gun grab into a media circus by live streaming it
Actually pretty genius
anon, I'm glad you responded, I hope you know how to get the data off of your hard drive, but I hope you even more know of commsec. This place has really gone to shit and no one seems intent on keeping their wits about layering their security. Please use invidio()us next time when posting youtube links. Nonetheless, thanks for the recommendation, I think this should be a subtopic here. Thanks too, for the warning, I am naive about everything it seems. Opsec and Comsec needs its own thread here.
Is this also in reference to the amount of foreign parts you could use to build the weapon? Are you saying that it's entirely legal to buy a lower receiever and then buy everything else and the fbicianiggers need not know about it? How did you or anyone else find this information out? Is it possible to build an ak47/74 or a G3 with this method legally too? sage negated :^)
>hurr durr just use a search engine that is known to flag specific keywords and phrases in an index within their search databases
know how I know you're new/shill/retarded?
>implying an insurgent group doesn't bury arms and munition caches in order to dig them up at a later time
Protect your guns. Don't be like this poor fucker
>Police came around today and seized my airguns and unlawfully seized my crossbow (not a firearm). The reason given is that I'm "not a fit and proper person to be in the possesion of an airgun" where's his reasoning? It's obvious what this is about. Somebody in Christchurch, who I've never met, killed 50 people at two mosques on the 15th of March 2019. The detective told me over the phone (all recorded) that these firearms were seized because I'm "right wing", again - their words. I have never voted in my life and have been eligible since 2008. This is political persecution in New Zealand 2019. Welcome to your new police state, get used to it because more parliamentarian and police bullying tactics are coming whether we like it or not. Stay tuned for some more bullshit laws to be passed
>The police reasoning (over the phone) for taking my airguns is that I'm a "right wing white supremacist". When asked further, they said it's because I've been on the record supporting US President Donald Trump. You can't freely support the US President in New Zealand without facing persecution.
>You have to keep atleast some of your guns in an undisclosed location far away from your home which ZOG has no knowledge of.
Easier said than done. Also inaccessible, then they can just pay a gang of miscreants to visit you since you are unarmed and just chalk it up to random violence. Like the state sanctioned farm murders in SA.
>3.) store your guns at a friends house
How could you stop them from shutting off your power/jamming your cell phone in this situation? I feel as though they'd probably just cordon off the entire block near the residence being V&.
Holy shit I thought it died. They even got some RINOs to come aboard.
>Regardless how we feel about the Bundy Ranch incident: It proved a large enough group of pissed of Americans with guns can win a fight against the state.
They lost though.
Am I thinking of something else? I thought a few of them were sent to prison, a few others were killed.
>you wont go around murdering police chiefs and judges with your hidden pistol. nobody has. nobody has shot it out either.
Retarded nigger, you think the news reports that shit openly. If what you said were true pic related wouldn't be rotting in a coffin 6ft under. Guy in Cali had his AR taken away and starts shooting pigs with pistols cops didn't know about it.
Fucking hell even the officer hat looks similar to an star of david symbol
Consider relocation to a state that doesn't do this stuff. I'm concerned when I read people suggesting doing lawbreaking; that's what the system is set up to crush, and you'll look stupid/ criminal/dangerous for doing badly executed crimes.
I suggest you study history of groups that overcame oppressive modern governments and learn from them.
I think that the most important thing that people are missing is that if this becomes the law of the land, it will eventually become automated and mechanized.
Lose your job? ERPO
Accused racist? ERPO
Homeowner's Association sues you because your shingles are the wrong color? ERPO
Or maybe with points like a drivers license or something. Who knows? But this garbage needs to be shot down with extreme prejudice.
>hide like a rat
When you're too afraid to exercise your rights, they've already won. I agree with you about not leaving a paper trail but, if you have to hide, if you are too terrified to stand up for yourself, if you value your security more than your liberty, then the fight is already over for you. You gave up.
no, have decoy guns you don't mind losing none of them are worth losing but you know what I mean and then have your "utility" guns for when the nice times happen.
I wonder if ERPO could be used to prevent someone from having Freedom of Speech, like using it for restricting Freedom to Arms?
When the pigs inevitably show up to my door they're going to swallow me on camera gopro style. I don't understand why anybody would hide their guns or some stupid bullshit like that. If the police are knocking on your door then they're asking for it. This is why you should also carry a gun wherever you go so that way if the pigs catch you by surprise they still get a surprise. None of this would have to happen if the police weren't zogbots willing to gun down their fellow americans over a pension. If any of you fuckers are really crazy you should set up booby traps inside your house so that way the pigs get a taste of American style vietcong. Nobody is going to willingly be a pointman after Joe Bagadonuts got his legs blown off by a single barrel shotgun facing a doorway or from a propane tank
finally a post i agree with
this samefag here
Ak47 needs no spare parts, or lube, or cleaning. Easy teardown into pieces and the 7.62x39 is a battle for even level 3a bulletproof vests. They are decently cheap. Or, you could even get an SKS for less than $400 if you sold the AR. I bought two and a LOT of ammo for $800 on armslist a couple of years back
Fug, when I was purplepilled I bought pistols through gun shops. I've bought several rifles since then though with cash and private sale. Realized what was coming at that point. Think if I sold the pistols back to a gun store, it would be in the ZOG system as not in my possession anymore? Then I could get some more through private sale. Also, got a CCW so I know I'm on the kike hitlist somewhere. Nice thing is that since then, haven't gotten picked for jury duty while before I was getting that shit every year.
not afraid of fighting a zogbot raid in Minecraft if they came to my door. The fear of death has been lost for me, the only fear left is not doing enough to secure the existence of my people and a future for white children
Who fucking cares if your guns are registered? Is this what America has come to? Citizens are scared of the police possibly coming to your door and blowing you away? The founding fathers would be shocked and ashamed and how America is today. I don't give two shits that my guns are registered. If they want my ass they can come and get it in minecraft
The founding fathers would be pissed.
Lower receiver = fun. Everything else is accessories, though the barrel is typically serialized to match the lower in COTS funs. You can unironically buy anything else (except giggle stocks), but pic related is, for most intensive purposes, is fun. Sell it, and you're selling fun. Put in luggage, and you're transporting fun. File off serial number, and you're getting v& & raped, because filed off numbers can still be recovered via nitric acit.
Fortunately, lower receivers are often little more than a series of properly placed holes, which is where the 80% receivers come in, wherein someone else puts in 80% of the holes, namely the more difficult precision holes, which leaves the 20% to the hamfisted consumer, thus allowing it to be sold not as a lower receiver, but a simple block of metal with miscellaneous holes.
>When they enter the house and my hydroponic misting rig above the door pumps out Lofentanil-DMSO instead of water.
I got redflagged. It starts with a call. If you don't play ball they escalate.
Like irs. Starts with letter. If you pay, no raid. If you ignore, they'll surveil&raid.
I wonder if 8pol red-flagging a bunch of rednecks is the way to make things get interesting quickly. Or expanding the law so it's routine and happens to nearly everyone due to life events like divorce.
Incrementalism is working.