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File: 71b6041a0f0f6fc⋯.jpg (117.21 KB, 1200x675, 16:9, cyberpunk-2077-screenshots….jpg)

5bce15  No.15973027

Recently fully watched the 45 minute gameplay trailer of this game just to see if /v/ was being too harsh on it. Halfway through I had this sense of Déjà vu like I've played this game before and it me that It's pretty much Deus Ex HR. Have I become too fucking cynical /v/ or am I on to something?

baaad5  No.15973039

File: 966980563e8ba13⋯.png (589.71 KB, 553x975, 553:975, 966980563e8ba132a8ce592de7….png)

And whats your point anon?


737157  No.15973052

File: 5fe9164ec364f30⋯.png (406.98 KB, 1042x507, 1042:507, support.PNG)

Is cynicism meaning that you're seeing the same game over and over on different games?


91c8f4  No.15973057

File: b33706f2d87f073⋯.jpg (17.13 KB, 500x327, 500:327, i dunno.jpg)

Watched it and it looked alright. I guess I'll get around to play it in order to judge fully. It still looks overhyped though.


5bce15  No.15973063

>>15973052

I was asking am I being too cynical over that I can barely tell the difference between it and Deus Ex Hr?


02674d  No.15973066

>>15973027

The only thing I don't like about it and it's a heavy downside for me is The Voiced Protagonist

I've gotten over the No Third Person thing it's not just Immersion they said that it's Gameplay and level design thing (can't do cramped interiors with third person the camera will get stuck)

Action RPGs are my favorite genre I was hoping this would be one to top New Vegas but the Voiced Protag lowers the bar.


028954  No.15973069

n'aw


02674d  No.15973075

File: 38be1732d91bb02⋯.jpg (47.81 KB, 422x422, 1:1, Max couldn't make sense of….jpg)

>>15973063

>asking /v/ if you're too cynical

what next asking the suicidal for reasons to live


baaad5  No.15973077

File: 3e5223b4305a062⋯.jpg (1.37 MB, 2880x4990, 288:499, 3e5223b4305a062d76043810a1….jpg)

>>15973066

>3rd person


d67bd6  No.15973082

File: 4dbafe337e1f285⋯.jpg (39.29 KB, 433x448, 433:448, 4dbafe337e1f285a10f950aaef….jpg)

>>15973066

Theyre afraid to release a game with no voiced protag thinking it will deter normalfags, but either way most retards will just rush trough the dialogue anyway no matter what the faggot devs will implement.


4164ba  No.15973087

>>15973075

Exactly. The sequences in the gameplay were scripted, if they aren't, they'll be repetitive.


737157  No.15973099

File: 5643dca3d24b36c⋯.mp4 (8.47 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, Be Real.mp4)

>>15973082

I don't understand this, it's much more faster to read things for yourself and skip the spoken dialog. All it serves is to waste time and sink money on VAs or some celebrity attention whoring so the game gets more PR.

Voice acting in games was a huge mistake.


02674d  No.15973104

>>15973077

Like I said it's not really an issue for me I understand the lack of it is to tighten up the Gameplay

>Why

Because New Vegas had it.

Sometimes I just want to see my character in bad ass gear trekking across the map

The cool looking gear ads to the sense of progression and accomplishment for me

>>15973082

This hurts to read Voicless Protags have done well with Normalfags for at least a decade

even the Bethesdrones hated 4's Voiced Protag but Marketing retardation being what it is….

>>15973087

Oh they were definitely scripted we don't even have a release date yet

but one of the areas was a dungeon and we saw environmental damage (bullets breaking things) at the very least I don't think they can/will back down from bullets going through things they advertised it too prominently


737157  No.15973118

File: 308c23d8fcc548c⋯.webm (2.32 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, (・ωー)~☆.webm)

>>15973104

>at the very least I don't think they can/will back down from bullets going through things they advertised it too prominently

All of this is because of the open world meme. It still lingers and the attention to detail drops like a motherfucker.

Botw had some great world interaction but it was dead and empty that it hurt to look at. With NuHitman I'm hoping that normalfags will realize that small/medium concentrated levels with details and several routes to be worked on are the best.


f988fc  No.15973123

You weren't the only one who saw the similarities. I hope they show something new soon because I feel ambivalent to what I saw before. If you were playing a hooker bot with blades then it would be a little different but they went with the usual stock gameplay with minor tweaks here and there to make it look different. Still a bit interested but waiting for something to truly wow me.


c45559  No.15973134

>>15973118

front-wheel drive was a mistake


baaad5  No.15973145

>>15973104

I didnt think of it that way, I guess they could just implement a mode where you can see in 3rd person during idle or walking. You should kill thyself if you wanted 3rd person gameplay though.


02674d  No.15973157

>>15973145

Well at least we'll have mirrors/reflections

though nothing will beat walking around the wasteland in Klamath Bounty Hunter Armor


6b3a9d  No.15973171

>>15973027

No it’s pretty much HR, that said I liked HR so I’m okay with that.


ae5138  No.15973175

Wtf, there is no multiplayer, I'm refunding


02674d  No.15973180

>>15973175

I was going to mock that as bait but then I remembered that there was talk that it was/is going to have online multiplayer in some way so who knows


827619  No.15973181

>>15973171

This.

HR had a decent voiced protag, too. Elias Toufexis is a good boy and I wish him the best.


baaad5  No.15973182

>>15973175

>>15973180

>wanting multiplayer even if they promised it

Now thats something I hope they lied about.


ae5138  No.15973183

>>15973171

I just played HR from start to finish in one sitting and it sucks.

Super clunky and trash gameplay.

Mankind divided is an amazing gem, shame they only made half of it.


02674d  No.15973187

>>15973181

decent yes but you'll never get the levels of RPG mastery that was the Atris scene in Kotor 2 or the Companion interactions in DAO with a voiced protag


827619  No.15973190


cb02e5  No.15973216

It didn't look particularly bad but it didn't look particularly good either and all the hype feels for naught.


02674d  No.15973229

>>15973216

Honestly I'm hyped for it because Action RPGs are my favorite genre and CDPR haven't let me down

It's the game I'm looking forward to the most with Outer Worlds being second for that alone


5bce15  No.15973239

>>15973171

It's not a bad thing since HR was an alright game it's more it's something I've already played and it's not trying anything new.


cb02e5  No.15973240

>>15973229

I don't know. Gameplay wise I hated both Witcher games I played(1 and 2).


827619  No.15973248

>>15973239

It's CDPR; mechanically, I don't think they've ever done anything new.


baaad5  No.15973493

File: cd032c6bbc48e8f⋯.png (11.48 KB, 625x626, 625:626, cd032c6bbc48e8f43bacb7b881….png)

>>15973229

>Outer Worlds

You could have tried something more subtle you know?


02674d  No.15973499

>>15973493

I know the writers are shit and it's probably doomed but aside from Doom Eternal what else worthwhile is coming out?

there's a chance that Avellone won't let it become complete shit


4a053b  No.15973644

File: 2e1bd1162c647ba⋯.png (1.25 MB, 1810x2889, 1810:2889, epic doot goy, bazinga.png)

>>15973499

>Doom Eternal

can't wait for more epic doot goy glory holes kills that glory shower you with glory healthpacks and ammo.


732e46  No.15973690

File: 5ee12c11c5a5fcf⋯.png (852.3 KB, 1000x1534, 500:767, 00a29438445aac0737072a3d3b….png)

>>15973027

The criticism you see is a mix between genuine curiosity as to why certain things are they appear to be in the trailer and the majority of the criticism are industry shills who have stakes in the cyberpunk genre.


e8c014  No.15973699

>>15973499

Avellone left Obsidian.


51fc96  No.15973711

Because I played Witcher 3 and the combat sucked so I dropped it. The MC and sidekick are pretty degenerate but ignoring that since you can't maybe make choices yourself to be less degenerate, the gun play didn't seem that hard. It's more retarded enemy AI and this alone is holding back gaming imo. It might be good if there's tons of customization and exploration (despite not being able to fly). I just hope it's not empty like GTA V.


08561e  No.15973732

>>15973644

Health packs are dropped separately based on your health, the health glory kills give you is separate but it isn't remotely sufficient for glory killing to be a good tactic on higher difficulties.


2c60ad  No.15973735

File: e1807dc24044e65⋯.jpg (3.87 MB, 1318x12006, 659:6003, doom2016.jpg)

>>15973644

please post the updated version instead


51b06b  No.15973749

>>15973027

>first person anything

No thanks.


fbb1d4  No.15973758

>>15973711

just admit you were getting destroyed by some monsters in spots that were too high level and you couldnt wait to get to them later and wanted instead instant gratification

also you were getting annoyed by some enemies who have buffs and resistances all over the place and require preparation to deal with it

you can admit, you dont want to learn this game really


873d43  No.15973780

>>15973758

How about you admit you're a slavnigger shill? TW3 was a garbage game from the world, most of the quests to the combat. Even now people seriously defend the game when it's an ubisoft tier open world collecathon. There's no benefit to exploring since all the loot is trash except for mandatory upgrades. So what that leaves you doing is clearing out the hundreds of little blips on the map or using a guide. Shit ass game design why wouldn't I use a guide after you discover nearly all the loot is worthless shit? I understand that TW3 may seem like a complicated game with a high learning curve to your typical slav nigger brain, but it's not the case, Vladislav.


baaad5  No.15973792

File: 596ff7a51d3e2de⋯.jpg (55.91 KB, 680x680, 1:1, 596ff7a51d3e2decf771ef72e9….jpg)

>>15973780

All of those are extreme exaggerations and it has some of the best quest I've seen in a long time if not ever.


fbb1d4  No.15973815

File: 374544f117b40f2⋯.gif (2.48 MB, 480x270, 16:9, whatthehell.gif)


a3ac1e  No.15973860

>>15973027

>Have I become too fucking cynical /v/ or am I on to something?

t. le jaded teen gamr

Do you even listen to yourself, faggot? You better be some creative marketer shill, looking for the best way to present a game on imageboards. Because you sound insufferable.


baaad5  No.15973870

>>15973862

He might as well be Zimbabwen he is still staring in American.


ae63af  No.15973880

I was expecting a game similar to Deus Ex and what a surprise, we're getting a game similar to Deus Ex. A few games like DE, EYE and even stuff like Fallout, Dishonored etc. have all done things that Cyberpunk 2077 would do. No way they could have done something new. I'm a little disappointed that the game will play more like a Fallout with some added fluff like hacking instead of lockpicking and vice versa, but then again its my fault for imagining a game that would do more. I kept envisioning being able to play a Netrunner and never leave my apartment, just do every mission through the 'Net.

It looks good but it will definitely be compared to a bunch of other games because it ultimately is like a bunch of other games. Voiced protag is a turn off but not a huge one as a game like Deus Ex makes it work opposed to a game like Fallout. As long as there is a bunch of weapons, augmentations, classes and choices, enough for a few playthroughs at least, I will be happy.


7d81c9  No.15973900

>>15973870

But why?


baaad5  No.15973917

>>15973900

Because everyone can be american.


02674d  No.15974005

>>15973699

double checked I guess I thought he was in it because he worked with Tim Cain in 2 but the game still has Tim Cain and Leonard Boyarsky working on it aside from Fallout 1 they both have VTM:B under their belt so my point still stands


a9e812  No.15974195

>>15973780

>that leaves you doing is clearing out the hundreds of little blips on the map

Are you retarded? Did you also run around giving every tree a name, zodiac sign and backstory?


a02f58  No.15974941

File: 51ba823eb030208⋯.jpg (2.15 MB, 2560x1895, 512:379, Cyberpunk.jpg)

Your eyes don't lie, OP


f509d0  No.15974990

>>15974941

Why can't we have both?


02674d  No.15975021

File: 69fdf12aebb40aa⋯.png (731.91 KB, 918x834, 153:139, Baffled.png)

>>15974941

>People shit post endlessly about how the game is too bright and colorful

>Anon shitposts about how it's too dull and drab

>Based off the same trailer

Never change /v/ never change


4ff690  No.15975060

I just want a game that has serious consequences on certain actions. If you say "fuck you" to somebody in the game, that should result in getting a bullet through your head. Also those smart weapons they showed in that gameplay demo are just retarded. Bullets cannot "track" anyone, they travel in straight path and thats it. Also if there is any of that bullshit where you can just walk into people's apartments and loot them for items, then this certainly ain't rpg.


be5c01  No.15975080

>>15974941

>strong color variety

>color variety

>Mirror's Edge


0f9575  No.15975084

File: ce5b7b4f691b29f⋯.png (64.74 KB, 600x600, 1:1, ce5b7b4f691b29f6d20823c6ad….png)

>>15974941

>Complaining that a Cyberpunk game is not colourful enough.

>Compares it to Mirror's Edge a game that is way to bright and mostly one shade of pure white.

I have no words and I must shitpost.


12a011  No.15975252

The voice acting is terrible, reminds me of the Division play through trailer. Having someone confidently tell you what to do is absolute pandering to the weakest gamers out there, leftists.


02674d  No.15975286

>>15975221

Eye mods

Weapon hands, Body Plates

here's all the categories from the source materiel obviously not everything's going to make it in

http://cyberpunk.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Cyberware


7566e0  No.15975440

File: 7552656b3cab834⋯.png (1.31 MB, 658x1060, 329:530, cp2077 lie.png)

>>15973027

Yes, they aren't doing much that hasn't been done before.

To me the one thing they have to nail to set them apart from others is choice.

Actual meaningful choice.

Things that incentivize replaying the game.

And yet they didn't fucking show any choice permutation.

Not once, not a single god damn time.

They simply said that choice existed.

They implied there is choice.

Until I see that I will treat them as fucking liars just like every other grabbag of dickholes that has choice as a bullet point of their game.

The demo reel made it look like they're marketing to the general slack-jawed shooter loving chuckle fucks of the world and it is hard to think otherwise at this point.

All they needed to do was show a little snippet of them inspecting the cred chip like they showed you can do and having the vector removed.

From there comes an actual non-violent path of buying the bot and walking out the front door OR walking out the backdoor after the firefight with an extra 50K eddies in your pocket which is one of the outcomes they even said was possible.

From there you jumpcut to dialog of the corpo agent chewing you out for not getting her mole.

Then the really special thing is the dialog option that showed up for 1 second that said "Cred's yours with some additional info" during the mexican standoff.

Show that, then V and Jackie walking out with the bot AND the name of the mole the corpo agent wanted.

You do that and avoid listening to gunfire and screams for the next 10 minutes while making everybody happy.

Instead the choice they made was to show nothing that really matters.

They showed bullet time, a gun that ricochets, a gun that penetrates walls, a gun with autoaim, arm blades, hacking, engineering etc.

I'd have taken them just showing what would happen if you actually tried to take the gun out of the hand of the corpo bodyguard.

Ideally he shoots you in the face and you die for being an idiot.

That is the choice I want, I want stupid people shot.

Worst case scenario is that it leads to you just getting wounded while interrogated and everything goes down exactly the same stupid way in the long run.

Actual choice is the one and only thing that separates it from something I'll buy and a slightly better version of Nu-Deus Ex.


4a5e11  No.15975506

>>15973171

>>15973181

I also really liked HR and Jensen, the thing is that those games were thought with a character in mind from the start Same with the witcher games, where a voiced PC works because we're playing a pre established character, you can roleplay a bit but that was never really the point, on the other hand 2077 is being marketed as a real RPG where you're supposed to create your character it obviously won't be as deep as the tabletop but it should be certainly deeper than HR or the Witcher games something that goes against having a voiced protagonist.

I'd like if there were several voices just to give flavour to the character, but most of the dialog you'd have to read, so you can have your character sounding like you want him to sound but they don't have to waste tons of money and time on recordings.

The voiced protag disappoints me but it isn't a deal breaker in any way, for me at least i'm probably gonna play the default male anyway


4a5e11  No.15975523

>>15973722

>It was even more clunky, Janky and with shittier mechanics than HR.

What? how? i understand not liking MD if you didn't like HR to begin with, but MD is definitely an improvment, as the other guy said the shame is the writing and that it's half finished.

>>15975440

The fact that it ended in a shootout doesn't mean there's a lack of choice in the sense that you can't take things at face value in the game just like in real life, but it is true that they should've showed the differences if there were any. You have to remember that was a demostration, they'd want to show the combat in the game, so first they show you some peaceful interactions and dialog and then they show you how to deal with a compound full of enemies with some stealth and some combat. At the end of the day what people want to see are the flashy guns more than the RPG part, which is a shame but it is what it is

>>15975060

>I just want a game that has serious consequences on certain actions

The witcher games were pretty decent at that, not from one game to the next but within each game, i have confidence in CDPR's writing team in that regard.


f64657  No.15975524

File: d6ed241cb7f4e29⋯.jpg (20.09 KB, 540x555, 36:37, you're such a fucking hoe.jpg)

>>15974941

I have no words


f64657  No.15975528

File: 0ce57193e3444f8⋯.png (147.9 KB, 406x421, 406:421, 8d91a09832f90f466ecd8656d8….png)

>>15973099

I think a good compromise would be something like Morrowind, Have only the most important characters voiced and make everything else text.


a9ec5e  No.15975563

>>15975060

It won't. Yurofags don't make RPGs. They make cinematic and on rails experiences.


3f052b  No.15975603

File: efe2d5cd71434de⋯.jpg (156.1 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, cyber.jpg)

>>15975440

What's wrong with what at first seems like a non-violent path ending with a shootout? I far prefer that kind of gameplay than the standard click blue option for goody two shoes path that saves everyone on earth and no animals are hurt, pick red option to rape an unborn baby during the quest not because it'll help but because you're just that evil. Very few modern (or even old) RPGs do that, I doubt Cyberpunk 2077 will but if they do I'll appreciate it so long as they don't massively fuck up both gameplay and story.


a3ac1e  No.15975915

>>15973900

>But why?

Because morbid obesity was first classified and became epidemic in the USA. Fat people existed all around the world and through history, obviously: but it is unprecedented how enormous and sick you people managed to become. Which makes it hard to consider americans fully human anymore.


a3ac1e  No.15975920

File: 3f0caa516e6fc75⋯.jpg (66.47 KB, 600x848, 75:106, ce0667442474930196a6535c2d….jpg)

Like and upvote this comment, if you think your favorite Visual Novel will be better than Cyberpunk 2077.


70f970  No.15975983

>>15973099

not to mention how is drastically kill any rpg theme.

VA force the dev to drastically reduce the choices and outcome.

Maybe that's why in the dragon age series: only the 1st one have an rpg theme.


8c9a29  No.15975990

File: e7ea2537a65ce06⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 28.99 KB, 637x484, 637:484, e7ea2537a65ce06798879a9252….jpg)

>>15974941

You are completely right!!

It's not like the trailer is like a year old and every 10 minutes of the gameplay mod told us that this is just a fucking beta version and not a final game


5bce15  No.15976046

>>15973860

>creative marketer shill

Yes I'm clearly shilling a game I'm negative to.


097883  No.15976075

>>15975990

I have no comment regarding the image you're replying to, but what sort of absolute moron would believe the "i-i-it's just a beta" excuse these days? If a company representative calls what he's showing off a beta, it means that the content you see is essentially finished and only minor changes (often detrimental ones, at that) will happen. It's been this way for well over a decade. Not only that, based on The Witcher 2 and 3 we know that these devs can't be trusted when they make claims about their games pre release.


70f970  No.15976078

File: 90f914a3ee7e3c7⋯.png (269.12 KB, 445x414, 445:414, 448b58ec11cf82e53a1af3d49c….png)

>>15976046

imb4:

>"y-you're just pretending


897651  No.15976082

>>15973027

>people comment like the game is already released and they all have 10+h into the game, the thread.

love these, all meaningless speculations spat out in various edgy and vulgar ways by so confident and full of themselves 4chin immigrants.


827619  No.15976085

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>15975060

>Bullets cannot "track" anyone, they travel in straight path and thats it

https://www.darpa.mil/program/multi-azimuth-defense-fast-intercept-round-engagement-system

https://www.darpa.mil/program/extreme-accuracy-tasked-ordnance

Imagine being this wrong.

>>15975990

The visual design is going to be the one thing that definitely won't change much. If you were talking about the hacking system, then you might have a point.


baaad5  No.15976087

File: 7dbad6cdb410ea2⋯.jpg (18.82 KB, 272x272, 1:1, 7dbad6cdb410ea2b1200e9e330….jpg)

>>15976075

Graphic fidelity is something very much subject to change and you know it. Plus there was even in a point in the video with hacking that the commentator said it is very much subject to change. And you very much know that game development is fucked everywhere and games may even change drastically for some reason.


97ab64  No.15976126

>>15976087

>for some reason

it's consoles


827619  No.15976130

>>15976126

What they already had supposedly ran at 4k on a single GTX 1080. Hopefully they don't need to do a W3-style downgrade this time (but I wouldn't be surprised).


baaad5  No.15976155

File: 37a17e355dcd435⋯.png (184.55 KB, 364x496, 91:124, 534ed50a09d905894d5845d87b….png)

>>15976130

Its not some visual marvel though. Witcher 3 in the previews looked extremely sharp with a shitload of detail but from the gameplay footage this doesnt look that impressive. I wouldnt be surprised if they cut a bit on the visual elements but I'm not expecting anything as drastic and W3. even so w3 still looks great even with the downgrade

What I'm interested in is that they shilled for some supposed cool new animation system and I'm way more autistic about that then graphics.


097883  No.15976163

>>15976087

>Graphic fidelity is something very much subject to change

Yeah, and if you had paid any attention whatsoever during the last decade, you would "very much" know that such changes are always for the worse, either to make the game run on consoles or because the footage they showed didn't exist as a game in the first place.


827619  No.15976171

>>15976155

>Spoiler

Agreed, I like visual spectacle but there's a point of diminishing returns where I don't care much.

Animation, on the other hand, could still use a lot of work in modern vida.


5bce15  No.15976176

>>15976171

>Animation, on the other hand, could still use a lot of work in modern vida.

Good lord some of the animations lately have been stiff as a board.


baaad5  No.15976181

File: 78b148a342f603d⋯.jpg (84.62 KB, 1000x658, 500:329, 78b148a342f603d9cfb7d51e87….jpg)

>>15976163

Guess its my fault for trying to make a point over something similar but not the same. Yeah you're right. But that image is still retarded and might as well be outrage marketing or counter shilling by bethesda or something, whatever the case its pure faggotry and its shits up the discussion.


827619  No.15976193

>>15976181

I don't think anybody disagrees with the image being retarded.


85e940  No.15978442

>>15976085

>Imagine being this wrong.

He isn't though. The only tracking you can incorporate into a regular round is a slight aim assist, which, moving at the speeds a bullet does, will only make any difference 1) over very great distances, like sniping, such as your video or 2) if your aim is only very slightly off target.

Magical bullets that home in and strike targets from standard assault rifle engagement ranges are just retarded if it's anything other than a slight trajectory correction. There shouldn't be any rounds making lateral arcs or turning corners, the only thing that's gonna do that are self propelled munitions that travel a lot slower than bullets.


638577  No.15978459

File: 34d5c34565db1eb⋯.jpeg (216.15 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, animuitsfrom.jpeg)

File: 1024759e093d92c⋯.jpg (71.97 KB, 937x768, 937:768, krummlauf.jpg)

>>15978442

>There shouldn't be any rounds making lateral arcs or turning corners

Guns however…


d4bd17  No.15978475

>>15975915

>Some Americans are fat, therefore they all are.

So is it safe to assume that because there are some muslims in Europe, all Europeans are muslim?


baaad5  No.15978526

File: 79529b3f8d7c26c⋯.jpg (49.29 KB, 500x667, 500:667, 1471233013422.jpg)

>>15978475

>most

>some


638577  No.15978529

File: cdc156005447489⋯.png (17.19 KB, 600x463, 600:463, mcolympics.png)

>>15978475

>75%

>some


ae63af  No.15978544

>>15976155

What did they say about the animations?


d4bd17  No.15978707

>>15978529

>75%

I don't believe it, post the study, I want to see their sampling groups.


e5ee74  No.15978733

hoping it was just because it was a demo but did the dialogue seem really railroadey to anyone else? Like, JRPG "say yes or OK" tier at some points.


9656eb  No.15978756

>>15973099

Fallout 1/2 had a very happy medium to me on this issue. They weren't afraid to add tons of characters without voiced dialogue, but for all the most interesting and important ones they had fully animated talking heads. That way, assuming you have talented animators and VAs, you get to add something extra to the game without limiting yourself.


17f392  No.15978895

>>15978707

I believe it. It's not a measure of obesity, which is what comes to mind when you think of fat people. It's measuring the number who are merely overweight. And you can look decent-ish even when you're overweight, though most look like shit.


ae63af  No.15978948

>>15978733

I got that impression too, though if I remember right, it was more for generic stuff anyway. That's the problem with voice protags and dialogue choices, you can't really win. I'm sure the protag speaks without input at all and some are just there to give the illusion of choice.


85e940  No.15978950

>>15978459

Haha right but only if it fires balls, basically.

I think there was some israeli jew who tried marketing a working prototype of a gun + mirror system that worked on a hinge or something, that allowed you to look around corners and shoot without exposing yourself. Dunno what became of that if anything, I'd assume that it'd be so inaccurate you might as well just stick your dome out for target acquisition after laying down suppressing fire.


85e940  No.15978974

>>15978529

>>15978895

> It's measuring the number who are merely overweight

And the metric by which they measure overweight is pretty ridiculous. I'm a super skinny guy, I've always had problems maintaining mass (eating junk food isn't a solution), and even I could hit "overweight" if I lifted weights and pushed myself up to 195 lbs at over 6 feet tall. It's a completely retarded measurement, especially if it's based on BMI, but I'd really need to see the methodology of the study. You could have physically fit people measuring in at "overweight" even if it's simply muscle mass.


ae63af  No.15979029

>>15978974

>Everyone gets classified as overweight with the (((BMI)))

>Oy vey, weight and obesity is a big issue, we better tax the companies to give less sugar so you can all get healthy

>Companies proceed to give you less food yet you pay more

Truly a mystery


17f392  No.15979069

>>15978974

>>15979029

BMI is supposed to be accurate for a person with an "average" build. It's only a guideline. Fat percentage is the only really relevant measurement. You can actually have a fairly low BMI because you have 0 muscle mass but still have quite a lot of fat and be very unhealthy.


54432d  No.15979480

>>15974941

dont understand how much color contrast someone would want inside a fucking car


62daaa  No.15979490

>>15973493

I only watched one gameplay video of Outer Worlds. Why does /v/ hate it?

>ID baaad


85e940  No.15979529

>>15973644

as someone who pirated and played through NuDoot several times, that screencap is absolutely riddled with factually incorrect or just outright dishonest statements. Some stuff is right, but without reading the entire thing top to bottom, a brief scan makes it look like maybe 50-70% of it is actually correct.


02674d  No.15979549

>>15979490

SJW's writing are it


ea42a6  No.15979772

>>15979490

Bad writing. Dialogue trees where you're forced to say one thing.

Visually both so colorful it's hard to look at and uninteresting.

Phobia system that gives you (optional) debuffs for fighting the same monster type more than once.

Enemies stand around waiting to be shot.

It might be okay in spite of these. That one gameplay video is the only gameplay they've shown.


8157b7  No.15979845

>>15973880

I liked the voice protag in Deus Ex because it felt like a "blank slate". You could interpret it the tone in any way and it'll still make sense.

Cyberpunk's voiced protag had a single distinct tone per scenario.


48b717  No.15980306

>>15973157

>working mirrors

>current year

Lmao


5bce15  No.15981348

>>15979599

Like a broken record.

>>15973880

>>15980306

Voiced MC can work but it needs actual effort from both the writing team and VA. Something that is rare.


3662da  No.15981363

File: b57c34c8ae97a2b⋯.jpg (22.85 KB, 546x364, 3:2, b57c34c8ae97a2b9a1e4889d05….jpg)

>>15973229

>CDPR haven't let me down


2e4108  No.15981413

>>15974941

Bait or not. This is anon is absolutely right and everyone who disagreed is a dumbass. That muddy color palette just spells uninspired and low effort.


4a053b  No.15981442

File: dfa1f417495707b⋯.jpg (142.32 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, 20170925143000_1.jpg)

File: 8131a77e9f2ffe1⋯.jpg (1.02 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, 8131a77e9f2ffe1e01b62029e6….jpg)

>>15980306

Sometimes miracles happen.

>>15979772

>Phobia system that gives you (optional) debuffs for fighting the same monster type more than once.

Shouldn't a phobia be given when you get your ass handed to them?

Nvm, as I typed it out, they're using "phobia = I dislike thing for a valid reason" like islamophobia or homophobia.


0f0e04  No.15981457

File: cdc877cb0afb522⋯.jpg (152.45 KB, 1200x720, 5:3, C_WnXMbVwAAt615.jpg)

>>15981413

Yeah, they should have copied Blade Runner 2049 tbh instead of redoing the old Blade Runner/Akira thing.


488505  No.15981477

>>15981413

>>15981457

But the trailer I saw once was full of color and daylight.


ce9a9f  No.15981521

FPS with American social commentary from Poles as seen through a tabletop roleplaying lens created by an American nigger. Truly groundbreaking times.


5b12b6  No.15981523

File: df13b78ccffd5ab⋯.gif (804.67 KB, 400x225, 16:9, It's_beta.gif)


443b75  No.15981646

>>15973027

Go back to cuckchan. STAT

C77 is going to be an amazing game provided the devs have never failed to deliver before but i guess leftycucks like you dont even play games and you just spread blackpills kek fuck off cuckchanner


827619  No.15981663

File: 3ac9071c0840084⋯.png (39.09 KB, 500x501, 500:501, ClipboardImage.png)


443b75  No.15981672

File: 09163db3a4eed97⋯.png (95.89 KB, 332x333, 332:333, 7a5f0e137d02d22c8cf6d7a549….png)

>>15981663

>this much cancer

>cuckchanners will never leave /v/

just die


d55003  No.15981713

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>cyberpunk

I really wish cyberpunk would have the punk aesthetic brought back in, instead of good-but-inadequate synthwave bullshittery.


02674d  No.15981740

>>15981348

>Voiced MC can work

sure anything "can work" but that's different than the shear amount of potential Voiceless has. You can't have the great moments of dialogue conversation without a Dialogue Tree at least

>>15981413

>>15981457

Go here >>15975021


488505  No.15981754

>>15981713

Doesn't punk just mean low status? Cyberpunk being high technology contrasted with low quality of life.


b736f8  No.15981755

>>15981713

>autistic babbling about cyberpunk

>can't describe what cyberpunk actually is


434eeb  No.15981766

File: 00bac6f9db7af14⋯.mp4 (917.07 KB, 468x352, 117:88, How to integrate into grou….mp4)


f89aef  No.15981773

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>15978442

At bullet speeds - yes. But at hundreds km/h which are fast enough for "you can't outrun only blink before death" is possible. There are RC planes that can "run circles around man" at blazing speeds. Bullet size rc aircrafts (smart bullet) theoretically can do to tighter turns because square–cube law.


488505  No.15981808

>>15981773

If a bullet is traveling at 1,700 mph in one direction, to steer 45 degrees it would have to have a hell of a lot of delta-v inside it to change course, which would have to be burned in the right direction too. That requires a gimballed thruster, or at least stabilizer wings/fins. Obviously, we're talking a missile at this point, not a bullet. Now, if you want that 45° change at 1,700 mph to happen in less than a kilometer, you need absolute magic, or a bullet that fires another bullet inside it at an angle.


827619  No.15981916

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>15981808

>it would have to have a hell of a lot of delta-v inside it to change course

The bullets don't seem to go that fast looking at the video, and they curve maybe 30 degrees over 1/3-1/2 of a second. I would need to know the weight of the bullet to be sure of this, but let's say it uses a small shaped charge instead of a lead bullet; we could have a very low-mass, low velocity projectile. With the right secondary propulsion mechanism working in conjunction with fins and possibly a vibrating mechanism to take advantage of boundary layer frequencies, it seems quite possible to have the bullets follow this path although it would be FUCKING EXPENSIVE.

>we're talking a missile at this point, not a bullet

Visually it looks like they may be using a rocket-styled engine, as there is a smoke trail being left behind.


488505  No.15981963

>>15981916

We're talking magical levels of technology miniaturized to even more magical levels. It's difficult to believe such a civilization would even fight with rifle-looking weapons.


7d605c  No.15981973

File: de29071abea5b07⋯.png (14.15 KB, 472x489, 472:489, de29071abea5b07ec67d52b4dc….png)

Always assume everything is bad until proven otherwise.


488505  No.15981981

>>15981973

You'd just end killing yourself because why would anyone prove anything to you?


f69d60  No.15981998

>>15973229

>Honestly I'm hyped

Hype is a metal disease. You should never be "hyped" for any game released any more. It's all lies sold to you so you spend money without thinking like a retarded consumer zombie. Always wait until after release before you try to form any positive opinion about a product.


7d605c  No.15982003

>>15981981

I mean by actually playing things yourself.


488505  No.15982006

>>15982003

Assume everything is bad until you demo pirate.


ea42a6  No.15983111

>>15981442

>Shouldn't a phobia be given when you get your ass handed to them?

That would make sense, but it's not what they show in the gameplay video.

>phobia = I dislike thing

No, it's clearly meant to be a fear. It says it gives stat penalties when they're attacking you.


f89aef  No.15983625

>>15981916

> although it would be FUCKING EXPENSIVE.

We have chips made of millions parts that cost couple dollars. Lithography everything its digital age ffs.


dfb968  No.15983782

>>15983625

>We have chips made of millions parts that cost couple dollars.

Because billions of those are sold. Without scale we wouldn't have cheap chips, a fab is a couple billion to build.


b78c9b  No.15985333

File: 4518f553c0d09b5⋯.gif (1.72 MB, 600x440, 15:11, 1517214306336.gif)

>>15973027

I don't think it's going to be ground breaking but I also don't think it's going to be entirely bad either.


ff9c8a  No.15999042

>>15973027

It's pretty obviously playing on HR yes. That'd just make it a 6/10 game instead of shit.


05886d  No.15999069

File: 03fed247ed92fdd⋯.png (40.38 KB, 436x60, 109:15, readniggerread.PNG)

>>15974941

>comparing some empty world roof jumping game to a futuristic GTA


af7421  No.15999088

>>15981973

I always assume things are bad even after it's been proven otherwise.


37246c  No.15999464

File: ba3e9991b27020f⋯.png (1.39 MB, 1349x633, 1349:633, NOT cyberpunk.png)

File: 0b488b632ac52f3⋯.jpg (142.7 KB, 720x1080, 2:3, Cyberpunk.jpg)

File: b5998a22b55f692⋯.jpeg (67.05 KB, 700x394, 350:197, SciFi but NOT Cyberpunk.jpeg)

File: 41d31ef10fc95b5⋯.jpg (80.82 KB, 579x768, 193:256, Cyber punk.jpg)

File: 082eadbc97b698e⋯.jpg (289.04 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, NO you retard.jpg)

>>15973027

>>15981755

>>can't describe what cyberpunk actually is

Definition of cyberpunk (cy·(U+200B was here)ber·(U+200B was here)punk)

1 : science fiction dealing with future urban societies dominated by computer technology

In science fiction circles, "cyberpunk" is a genre that often features countercultural antiheroes trapped in a dehumanizing high-tech future. Its roots extend back to the technical fiction of the 1940s and '50s, but it was years before it matured. The word cyberpunk was coined by writer Bruce Bethke, who wrote a story with that title in 1980. He created the term by combining "cybernetics," the science of replacing human functions with computerized ones, and "punk," the raucous music and nihilistic sensibility that became a youth culture in the 1970s and '80s. Not until the 1984 publication of William Gibson's novel, Neuromancer, however, did "cyberpunk" really take off as a term or a genre.

THINGS HAVE ACTUAL DEFINITION ASSHOLES

READ THE DICTIONARY


5bce15  No.15999521

>>15999464

>THINGS HAVE ACTUAL DEFINITION ASSHOLES

I'm aware of what Cyberpunk is anon, but what I'm saying it 2077 just seems like HR.


37246c  No.15999573

>>15999521

Oh I'm an ass my bad. Yeah it feels that way doesn't it?


3abcd7  No.15999605

>>15981740

you can, it will just expensive as fuck having all those lines voiced, all the while you only hear maybe half of it - which means wasted resources for the suits. once we get to the point a voice synthesizer doesn't sound like HAL it will be one and the same.


5bce15  No.15999908

>>15999573

Oh yea it doesn't bring anything new that HR didn't.


865c26  No.16000821

>>15978529

>ireland

>anglo

no thanks




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